Today Dr. Rutherford will be going over the next segment in our Functional Medicine series discussing Leaky Gut.
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Maybe what your visit to a functional medicine practitioner may be, should look like and or and or maybe how you should be getting treated. We are kind of into the area now, where we’re talking about you’re in the office and you’re getting taken care of, and as this is being confirmed that this very moment by my mentors that there Is a hierarchy to care and that’s? What I’m trying to present here it’s.
This is not about throwing spitballs at the wall are looking at some sort of an assessment form and saying you have a hundred different symptoms. Let’s drove thirty two different supplements out it that’s, not functional medicine.
Ok! So last week we did our last at least the last episode we did intestines we did the intestines and the intestines in general, or, as most people know, a significant factor in our health. A growing understanding of the microbiome is is is, is really fueling our ability to to take care of more and more symptoms in a better quicker or more efficient fashion.
And so we started off with the intestines in and of themselves and and and how they can affect just so many things we’re kind of kind of going to go on to the next aspect of that a classic functional medicine doctor should be.
Should be following some sort of an order, this is an assessment form that, probably you can argue, was one of the starts of functional medicine. It has different categories: it’s relatively organized in the categories of a relative order of the way you should think of attacking that person’s physiology.
The person fills it out and it tells you what symptoms they have they have patterns. Should jump off and then you should look at those patterns relative to some sort of an organized thought and then attack in that direction.
Last week we did intestines. Then we’re, going to kind of continue with intestines. We’re gonna do leaky gut okay and we’re used to yeah. I don’t know I’m, a stickler for language in terms and the matura intestinal permeability, because it’s.
Not a colloquial term because when you’re talking to a medical doctor, some medical doctors, you’re talking to serious people. They got like you got that’s, a stupid thing. It doesn’t exist and that term kind of lends it to that, but it exists and there’s.
I know there’s at least a hundred and twenty-five different research projects on this that have been done. As of a couple of years ago, I don’t even know how many there must be now so in so leaky gut is actually starting to find its way into the literature as a term leaky gut, and this is – and this is a kind Of a really significant one, because here’s, one of the problems that I’ve observed – and I and I think I was one of the first functional medicine practitioners in the poll.
I think it’s. I think it’s, legitimate to say that we were doing we’re, doing functional medicine when nobody knew what it was and nobody was showing up the classes. And so I’ve, gotten a chance, an opportunity to to observe how how this has evolved and it hasn’t completely evolved the way it was intended that’s.
Why? I’m. Presenting this series. Functional medicine is not a term. That is something that is, is regulated, so anybody can call themselves a functional medicine practitioner and but it really has a specific meaning and, and this is part of it, but what’s happening? Is this different pieces have been taken and and commercialized online, and we we do that? We’re entrepreneurs here in this, in this country and and and more and more in the world.
So there are lots of leaky, got programs out there. Okay and I read every entrepreneur online and I’m, not going to mention names that’s, their leaky gut protocol and there’s, leaky gut set of of supplements and and and and the reason why you should you Will do there’s and it’s, going to fix all these things and all of you do it and maybe ten percent of the time it gets better and stays better.
I’m, going to tell you why that is here in a couple minutes and the rest of time it either doesn’t get better, it gets worse or it gets better and it comes back that happens probably eighty to ninety percent.
At a time, we’re going to talk why that is so that’s kind of where functional medicine is breaking down a little bit. As I walk through these, you’re gonna see there’s. Numerous areas – a blood, sugar or leaky gut and and and people have gone in there go.
I’m, not gonna learn. All this. I’m, just gonna go out and do diabetes and leaky gut or I’m gonna do diabetes in thigh or something like that. But that’s, not the way the body works and that’s. How functional medicine came to be so leaky got, is a big big deal? Most people come in here.
Have it? What is it it’s when the inside of your intestines gets damaged and when it gets damaged? The inside of your intestines, I’ll, take a step back, you eat. Food goes in, it should get digested in the stomach and that mainly in the small intestines and the nutrients should be absorbed.
Excuse me on the inside of your intestines. Are these little hair like fingers called villi dish? The nutrients should be absorbed there and the toxins should go into the toilet. You’re constipated and they’re, not going into the toilet.
You’re, not detoxifying, so that’s. The whole that’s kind of the whole simplicity of that flow. These toxins should not go in through your gut and into your bloodstream. Okay, because they don’t belong there.
They are toxins, they belong in the toilet when they get into the bloodstream. Your immune sees these toxins and other things that will get through. We’re, going to talk about in a few minutes as foreign bodies and they will attack.
This is one of the ways you get inflammatory responses immune inflammation. We’re gonna talk about something called lipopolysaccharides that when it gets that, when it’s in your gut, they’re fine. When it gets out of your glut, it can create massive autoimmune, inflammation or inflammation in general.
So, okay, so we have this leaky gut and basically what happens is that the gut can be compromised and then things that should be going into the toilet are going through the inside through the side of your intestines and into the and into the bloodstream, where it Doesn’t belong.
This is a big big problem. Okay yeah and I’m, going to tell you right now. If you’ve ever had a surgery on your intestines. You know people say well what’s? What what causes leaky gut and and celiac causes leaky got Crohn’s.
Disease can cause leaky gut because it can go through all throughout your system, from your from your large intestine to your small intestines to even your stomach and throat and mouth and it’s done, we can throw an esophagus celiac gluten intolerance.
If you have a gluten, intolerance is one of the more common causes of leaky gut. It breaks down the villi. Those little fingers, I talked about stress stress, increases cortisol responses, okay, cortisol, that little that little or not so little a chemical that your adrenals make when you get stressed hormone and it gets up and and it and cortisol is actually a good part of your immune System, but when it goes up because of stress responses, they can screw up your blood sugar and create inflammation one of the things it does is.
It has an affinity for the inside of your intestines, because cortisol is part of your immune system response to inflammation, and so cortisol is part of that 70 % of the immune system. That’s on the inside of intestines.
It has an affinity for the inside of your dozens, but when it’s too much when it goes up to hundred three hundred four and five hundred percent as a very stressful situations, it’ll attack and damage.
The inside of your intestines and the next thing you know you will have leaky, got antibiotics. Okay, who of us I’m. Who of us has not had antibiotics, at least in my age group. I just realized the other day.
Now I am a Boomer I just I just came to that understanding. So for those of you who who are in the Boomer age group and you’ve, you’ve had antibiotics for sure, but antibiotics are still being fairly cavalierly used.
They’re finding out now that one exposure to antibiotics changes your microbiome forever. That’s a subject for another day, just telling you that that’s, a big cause of leaky gut. There are a lot of other things.
I mean you: can you cannot have enough hydrochloric acid in your stomach from stress to maybe your gallbladder is not working right. Most people don’t realize that your gallbladder, your pancreas don’t just put out digestive stuff.
As far as breaking down fats and breaking down your starches and carbohydrates, but they also put out anti inflammatory enzymes, so there’s, a lot of things that cause the leaky gut, say one of the biggest.
What and and and I want to say, one of the biggest, but one of the more profound causes is surgery, so a lot of people will have surgeries on their intestines. You have a permanent leak. You got okay, I had a surgery on my intestines at like five weeks old and I and I’m sure that I have permanent leaky gut.
I’ve been tested for leaky gut. I have it, I take care of it, but I think if I took the test today, I would probably test for leaky gut. So so these are just kind of the general parameters of leak you got leaky gut is why is leaky got important? Okay, leaky gut is important because when things get out of the gut, then they can create issues.
So if you get food sensitivities, they get that undigested food particles that get out of there, that’s. One of the ways that you can develop food sensitivities because when they went those particles get into your bloodstream, then the immune system sees them.
They attack and you get a sensitivity to food sensitivity which can be controlled by the way. But there’s. There’s, other things that are that are significant, that when they get out of the gut, they create big-time problems.
They’re, not conversant yet with all of the all of like the bacteria in the in the gut that’s, causing a lot of things. Now you’ve. If you’ve watched a lot of my presentations, you’ll, know that I ‘
Ve talked about bacteria that cause rheumatoid arthritis and bacteria that cause the lupus, and that model is starting to fall apart. It was through a seminar back in early September and they were saying that it’s, not that clear that it’s one-to-one between this bacteria and rheumatoid arthritis.
But it is clear that the gut is affecting rheumatoid arthritis. It is clear that the gut is a it is affecting and/or, probably creating a lupus, but it’s a little bit more amorphous than they thought that it was so when these things get out.
When he’s, bacteria get out, they cause problems, and it was Hippocrates who said, look to the gut for the cause of all sickness and disease. That was, I think, 450 or 500 BC. It’s, kind of and – and I think the Chinese like a couple thousand years ago, said fire in the belly fire in the brain.
And so we’re. Finding out that that this data has been around a long time. But it’s now becoming pretty well confirmed. So this leaky gut is no small thing and, and some people will argue that you can heal your leaky gut and but but but people that I study with and the people that I count on for a hard core data that counts data that I can use To help to create improvement and positive results and in clinical practice their position currently, is you never heal it leaky gut you, you get it under control and you keep it under control with diet and supplements and stress management and fight.
If there’s, a disease there, you get rid of that, and so so so so leaky gut is very high in the hierarchy of treating autoimmune problems, endocrine problems, brain problems, a lot of people come in and they’re surprised when We put I we have an Alzheimers patient right now and we have been able to get the testing that we wanted yet and we’re just getting the testing done.
So the patient’s, been we do functional neurology. So we’ve done functional brain rehab exercises. We have the patient using oxygen because they didn’t have enough oxygen to your brain. If you’ve watched the previous segments, then you ‘
Ll understand why oxygen is important. It’s, a basic getting better and we ‘ Ve got our using oxygen. We’ve got to do a little, some general it’s called exercise with oxygen therapy. We were doing that getting oxygen to her brain and we ever do her brain exercise and she’s on her diet and we had nothing magic.
We’ll use 10 different diets. She’s on the autoimmune, Paleo diet, plus a few more foods taking off a bit to dampen immune information and to dampen inflammation in general. She’s gone. She’s, probably gone from like a stage 5.
There’s, a couple of rating systems and I used the one at 0 to 7. She’s, probably gone from an early stage, 5 to a late stage, 3, just doing that. Okay, just doing that. What is that telling me? It’s telling me that dampening immune inflammation to her intestines is part of what’s, causing her hippocampus to be, which is where Alzheimer ‘
S starts and proceeds before it gets into the really bad areas is what’s, causing the inflammatory responses in her brain and they’re dampening down. She’s, noticeably better. It was very exciting to see her the other day, because both her and her husband were like really like.
We haven’t even started on supplements yeah, okay, so it’s, pretty cool, so so the guts big it’s, big it’s, big it’s, big and and that so Leakey got The so League he got his hi hi hi on the on the on the scale of hierarchy in taking care of chronic conditions period.
I don’t care. What’s? Fatigue care was chronic fatigue. If it’s, brain fog, if it’s Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s effect. They’re, saying that Parkinson ‘ S starts in the gut. Now I mean like definitively saying that it starts in the gut it’s way more than just irritable, bowel syndrome, gut it’s.
There bacteria we’re gonna talk about right. Now they can cause diabetes. Even if you’re eating properly, even if you’re exercising, even if you’re thin and also – and you like, develop diabetes going happen, yeah we got no guarantee.
So basically, how do you figure out the Otley? He got okay, one of the things could be. If you’re, one of those people can’t eat anything and, and and – and I every single food I eat is – is a sensitive issue.
You start thinking, maybe I got a leaky gut. Maybe it was undigested. Food particles are getting through and the next thing you know I’m developing food sensitivities. There’s, other things that cause that type of what’s called mucosal or oral intolerance.
There’s, histamine responses. There are other things but leaky, but if you have that one of the first things you probably gonna think is, I probably leaky got. I can’t come I’m just sensitive to all these foods.
I can’t eat them. I want a better diet and you’re gonna give me and – and I and I’m, still, not getting better, because you’re, probably developing new food sensitivities to the food. You already have all of those things in a patient.
History is going to learn me to the fact of the fact that the patient may have a leaky. You got classic symptoms, increasing frequency of food reactions, just what I just said: unpredictable food reactions.
Food reactions like broccoli, okay, food rations of foods that you’re like asparagus, I can’t eat asparagus like what the heck is that what the heck is, that is that an undigested asparagus particle got through your gut and into your Bloodstream and you have a sensitivity now, I understand not an allergy – that’s, going to be another whole segment: okay and unpredictable, abdominal swelling, okay, this and and frequent bloating and distension after eating.
These are bacteria. These are bad bacteria that are getting out again. We’re, going to talk about those in a second that could be a sign of small intestinal back to your overgrowth and then aches and pains and swelling throughout the whole body.
Just what I said: okay and the main one that causes – that is something called a lipopolysaccharide. So inside of your intestines okay, so we have leaky gut. You get those symptoms. You got any of those symptoms.
You guys started thinking, I probably ki got. Then you look online and you go. Oh there’s like a zillion people who have leaky gut programs with their leaky gut autoimmune, Paleo diet probably ought to be prepared, is the most common one I see online, and then they have their the glutamate.
You take this where the digest is ends IMC, take the probiotics and take all that type of stuff and with some people it’s different, so they can differentiate themselves. So it’s, aloe vera or whatever.
Okay, I mean it’s known out there, what heals your gut! It has been frankly for a couple thousand years, so you do it. It doesn’t work, so so number one. How do you know you got leaky gut? You have those symptoms: what’s? The test, for there is not a great test in the medical model.
Okay, those of you watch me like for like 800 hours, not anti medicine. You know that by now, okay, but the medical model, doesn’t, even brace leaky gut. Yet go to your go to your your internist, who’s.
Gon na set you up for a colonoscopy at 2:30 on Thursday afternoon, because that’s. When the slot is open and the colonoscopy area and – and you’re gonna go, you think I got leaky gut. They’re gonna laugh at you, okay, I it’s, ridiculous easily there ‘
S got to be a couple of hundred studies out there. On least you got by this time. When I say about 125, I think we did that one like four years ago, where we maybe even longer that we produced 125 reference peer referenced journal articles on on leaky gut, so that’s, kind of where you’re at on That, when you go to a functional medicine practitioner depending on the level and which they participate in functional medicine, and they may use the functional norms to of just of a blood panel and on your complete metabolic panel, they may look at your protein and your globulin And if it’s high or low, that was one of our earliest markers that we use to determine leaky gut in combination with the symptoms.
Hell we go yeah, you got, we’re gonna treat you for it. Next, we’re, not doing anything else until we see if we can get down and control. Most of you are familiar with the for our program. Well, maybe most of you are not familiar with the for our program, but that’s.
The program that everybody’s been using, since you know, since this whole thing started and and and and and so that you they wouldn’t, give you stuff to kill and everything. If there’s bacteria in there and they would give you stuff to decrease inflammation and then they say have to replace the probiotics and you’d – have to replace what enzymes and that model works for, like ten percent of leaky gut.
Maybe maybe a little more, maybe a little more okay, because we didn’t know all about. Like you got, then the along came a lab called cyrex labs and cyrix lab specializes in antibody testing for chronic conditions, neurologically, autoimmune, wise and – and I use them – and I must tell you no test – is perfect: okay and and doctor Rajdhani, who runs that lab and Who’s produced any of these tests would be the first one to tell you that, however, once you’ve gathered the data once you’ve done an exam.
Once you’ve done these tests. You can go a long way towards getting a longer-term response with the leaky gut, so leaky guts breaks, so leaky gut is a gut that breaks down. Cyrex has a has a test called and I don’t have any affiliation with cyrex by the way.
Okay, I don’t make any money off of doing this. I should call them and make some money off this right. It’s, it’s. The way to do it right so anyway, so here’s, the point there is this many types of leaky gut there’s.
Four types leave again: there’s, not one type of leaky gut and there’s and it could argue there’s five type, but I’ll, explain that so, basically, there’s. Four types of leaky gut when your gut breaks it down.
A number of things can happen there’s. These there’s, these parts of the of the of the intestinal chemistry, the gluten and zhonya, and these hold your cells together. So that they don’t fall apart and then allow stuff to get in between them and into the bloodstream.
There’s, acto myosin, so the act of myosin is is, is the it is another type of protein that that holds everything together, but it’s different than the as you’ll, see that including Sanyal in once. Okay, so these end up telling us whether we’re having cells that break apart, that a leak allow you to leak, toxins and undigested food particles into your bloodstream, or it tells us whether the cell itself, that the the acto myosin the cell itself Is actually just being damaged and it, and literally it’s going through your cells and then or for, is both of them or both of them being damaged.
Okay, are we having both the occlusion and are we having the ACTA myosin damage? So once called para cellular permeability, one’s called Tran cellular permeability, and then we have this. Then we have this guy over here called lipopolysaccharides.
You can look these up. Put in capital, L capital, P capital s and see what comes up. These are bad bad buggers. They are the outside walls of bad bacteria that are in your gut. You got the gas, you got the bloating, you have those types of things you have you pride these bacteria.
If they stay in your gut no problem, they’re part of the microbiome. They balance out good bacteria, but when, but when, when they break down and they get out of your gut and go into the bloodstream instead of the toilet, they have not even come to understand the complete breath of what they cost.
But let me tell you a little bit about what they know. We know that when these lipopolysaccharides lipo means fat saccharides are related to sugar, they’re, the cell walls of a bacteria when the bad bacteria breaks down and those cell walls become independent and they get out of that of that gut and they go Into the bloodstream they’re called an endo toxin, so you can look up endotoxins.
Endotoxins means a toxic piece of matter that comes from the endo comes from the intestines and, though means intestines next thing. You know this stuff creates massive inflammation. If you have post-concussion syndrome, I will guarantee you that your leaky gut is perpetuating your post-concussion one of the things that our that is doing it if you are fit, or at least thin, you eat relatively well, you exercise a little bit or a lot, and you’ve developed, diabetes, type 2 lipopolysaccharides have been shown to alter the ability of insulin to work and cause type 2 diabetes.
It is argued that it may be one of the causes of Hashimoto’s. Thyroiditis. Remember when I said one of the one of the symptoms of intestinal permeability is aches and pains throughout the body. This is it Oh, easy, lipopolysaccharides get out and then they in flare up and autoimmune responses, and if you have immune antibodies, let’s, say against joint tissue.
You’re, going to get joint pain if you have it against thyroid or if you have you’re, going to get thigh roid symptoms. If you have it against nerve fibers, you’re gonna get. Maybe a fibromyalgia is type of pain or maybe a peripheral neuropathy, but this is no small thing.
These things are bad buggers, so they’re. Okay, winner, in your test, students are in the toilet, but they’re, not okay, when they break down and they go into your into your intestines. How do you find out if you have this, you find out? If you have this, this is the only test.
I know I know other tests are developing, so I’m, not familiar with them. There are other companies who are developing this test. I can’t, make a comment on if those are great tests or not, because I’ve only seen a couple of them come across my desk and I just know this company I know cyrex was the first one in the poll.
I know to fudged on he’s serious about this stuff. I’ve used theirs, their their their tests and their interpretations, understanding the parameters of them with great success, and, and so so, basically you, you would have to have something like this test to understand, which type of which type of intestinal permeability that you Have to know how to take care of it if you just have, if you just have lipopolysaccharides and and you don’t, you could have, you know just have like well polysaccharides and not have all these things.
You’re. The person who has what we just called dysbiosis we talked about that last week, you’re, a person really doesn’t need to be in here. What you need there is you need to clean up your diet. You need to exercise, you need to get enough sleep, you need to stop drinking.
If you’re drinking too much, you need to do the things they’re just going to allow your intestines, the yell. If you come in here, I’m gonna look at that, and if I pick that up before him, I’m gonna say one of two things I’m, say you this one sounds like the me: you Can go home and do this is if it doesn’t work come back or we can run this test, and if it comes up like this, just here’s, what you need to do you just need to go home eat this Diet, I have a copy of their like a diet that would be normal for everybody, whether you’re, sick or not eat this diet.
I don’t even tell them. Take supplements it’s like eat. This diet, don’t, drink alcohol or don’t drink too much alcohol, at least you know, hydrate yourself, properly sleep exercise and I’ll get better all right.
This is not you’re, not gonna, and and so it’s kind of cool, because you’re gonna tell that now, if you get into here – and you have para cellular leaky God with with that with Endotoxin me, in other words the lightbulb Olli saccharides, are getting now or you can have it with them not getting out.
We’re gonna have trance Lu with them getting out or not getting out. Then that tells you what you need to do. Do you need if they got out, you got ta, kill them, you guys, somehow you got to kill them there’s, a ton of different ways to do it.
There’s, a ton of different supplements. You can look them up online and in herbs and botanicals and there’s, homeopathic remedies and there’s and and so so everybody’s got their there one. But basically you know you’re, going to be using some sort of a high-powered natural antibiotic or combination.
Anybody’s herb these are bad dudes, so they need to. They need to die. They go away. Okay, so, and then you can tell also how aggressive you need to get with your intestinal permeability when you have this, when you have the Junction’s break so that so that so that chemicals and toxins and food particles from here and go into Your bloodstream, okay and you have the cell breakdown the.
If you look at this and a microscope on a microscopic slide where they take a biopsy, a it’s, unbelievable it’s like your whole. Intestines has just like given away, and there’s just stuff just flowing in there.
It’s way worse than if you have one or the other it doesn’t change the approach technically, okay of getting on an anti-inflammatory diet and killing the lipo pie sackers and then using all of the stuff that you would use To heal, but it is gonna change, the timing of it, somebody who has like just a little leaky gut it’s, a little parasail you’re, the Junction ‘
S are broken. They don’t have lipopolysaccharides, i mean they might be better a couple weeks, okay, but somebody who has all that you might take 20 weeks to get that under control and it might take higher doses to get under control.
So that’s, something that maybe at that point, maybe some of you out there have the ability to kind of try to figure that out, but that’s, something where clinical experience really comes in that’s, something we’re having the test data comes in that’s, something we’re.
Having that we’re, knowing what the person’s, symptoms are, how long did they have them? What exacerbates it? Does it come and go there’s, a lot to evaluating that leaky gut? I think my biggest purpose in doing this other than bringing you through the hierarchy.
Okay and as you’re, doing bring you through the hierarchy of intestines and now fine-tuning that hierarchy within the intestines leaky gut a little bit next. Next time we’re gonna go on to chemical sensitivities, because intestines leak, you got chemical sensitivities or kind of a hierarchy.
They kind of they kind of go together. For those of you have multiple chemicals since the series that’s going to be our next subject and at the same time, you’re. Doing those, if you’re in chronic stress response being a functional nur into a functional neurology, okay, you’re going to you’re gonna have to do your distress response.
At the same time, because I talked about one of the things that causes leaky gut is stress responses if you’re in a chronic stress cycle and you’re trying to fix leaky gut. Even if you have the simple version that I said you know gets really easy, it could be really easy.
It’s, not gonna be really easy. If you’re continually flooding the inside of your intestines with with stress hormones, okay and you’re on the leaky gut diet and you’re, taking the leaky gut stuff.
Even if you, even if you have the simplest one of just the lipopolysaccharides and no damage so there’s, that hierarchy, but my I think the the biggest thing, the second biggest thing I want you to get other than the hierarchy is, I you Know you can’t.
Look, you can’t just look online on these things. You can’t. You can look online on these things. There’s. A ton of people will tell you how get how to get it better, but the I, the vast majority of time, that does not person does not get better for any length of time.
Some of you do, okay, but for those of you who don’t this, why okay! This is why so so back to basics, Leakey got theirs. I could you know you could talk Leakey god, oh my god, you could talk leaky gut for like hours.
You know there’s, so much cool stuff to talk about it because it’s such a nice. It’s. Such a piece of so many different conditions, and and and it’s and it’s and it’s again it once it starts getting a little bit more complex.
It’s, really an art to get it under control food sensitivities. You’ve, got to figure out what the person’s. Food sensitivities are it, it really becomes. It really becomes quite a in art. We have a sign around here.
That said, we didn’t say it was gonna be easy. We said it was gonna be worth it and that’s. One of the reasons is because that protocol of figuring out that person’s gotten how to get it under control between the stress hormones and between the dietary proteins of leaky Mpho, that that caused food sensitivities and all that it’s.
Kind of it can get and get a little hairy, but it’s. Everything it’s, a hierarchy. Everything is a gradient. Okay, there’s, leaky gut it’s, a tender it’s like you got that’s a 1 and everything in between another reason that you may not respond to a cookbook approach, so that’s, the key got, I think, as much as as you probably need to know, to understand your own situation or search your own situation.
So next time we’re going to be talking about next time. We’re, going to be talking about chemical sensitivities. We’re gonna be talking about you. Can that could be you? Those of you have multiple chemical sensitivities.
They’re high in the hierarchy relative to treating chronic problems. If you have the symptoms of chemical sensitivities, it already tells us a lot about your physiology and we’ll, be going into that in greater in greater detail, and it tells us it gives us a running start as to where to go.
And you literally cannot get those chemical sensitivities without having a leaky gut, and thus you can’t get those chemical sensitivities without having some abnormalities in your intestines, and there are more things to that.
So that’s, gonna be the next one. So until then thank you for listening. I hope you enjoyed this. This is one of my favorite subjects because it’s, one of the most important subjects relatives to get to addressing all kinds of chronic conditions.
Thanks for watching you