Hashimoto’s and Vitamin D

Hashimoto's and Vitamin D

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Talk about a subject that i think really requires a little bit of clarity and it’s kind of an interesting one. It’s, vitamin d and hashimoto’s specifically, and everybody everybody, but everybody comes in here – has low vitamin d.

So having done this for a long time, there was a time when uh it wasn’t, so well understood that vitamin d, low vitamin d was a problem or what the problem was or how it occurred. So people would come in with like vitamin d, it would be like if the range in america is 30 to 100.

People come with a vitamin d of like, like you, know, 20 and the doctor was going. Oh, you know you need to get on the sun. More i was like, but as we were in the earlier stages in the group that i was involved in, i would say, with some of the earliest functional medicine practitioners yeah.

We just kept seeing low vitamin d, low vitamin d, low vitamin d, low vitamin d and to us it just started to indicate that there’s, a connection between low vitamin d and chronic pain and, ultimately, realizing that hashimoto ‘

S was part of an awful lot of chronic conditions, chronic pain conditions and that vitamin d had something to do, maybe with immune inflammation using it up, you know and and that’s. What i’ve, told people for years and uh just recently.

Researchers are uh positing that vitamin d is um low vitamin d. One of the reasons is that it’s secondary to an inflammatory process that takes place in the body and that and that this inflammation uses up vitamin d.

So that’s, pretty close to what we’ve, been saying for a long time. I’m. Guessing it’s, going to go one step further and they’re going to say it’s; autoimmune because they ‘ Re. Now saying that there’s, an association, low vitamin d and vitamin d polymorphism, so let’s.

Talk about that real quick people come in. They have hashimoto’s. First thing i asked them: was they have low vitamin? Another thing back, then it was like yeah, i low vitamin d i went to my doctor. I said i’ll just take some pills and at back that time it was like 450 milligrams.

A day i mean now, doctors are giving 50 000 units of which is like 20 times that okay a week to their patients when they have low vitamin d they’re, not quite sure why. But they’re, giving it to them, and so there are reasons that vitamin d goes low.

One of the one of the biggest reasons is one of the biggest reasons is: what’s called polymorphisms. So, basically a lot of times a lot a lot of a lot of times. You have a problem with just genetically you.

Just genetically have a problem with processing and absorbing vitamin d, but what’s interesting is is now they’re, finding that there’s, a big association with people who have hashimoto’s and people who have Vitamin d polymorphisms, so one of the reasons that your vitamin d may be low is because you have hashimoto’s and you have this polymorphism.

You take 50 000 units six weeks late a week. Six weeks later you go to your doctor and your vitamin d. Hasn’t, moved a bit and so uh, so that’s, something that need that. That person needs to be aware of whose vitamin d isn’t going up, and there are ways to address that.

But you have to basically figure out what the triggers are for the hashimoto’s fix, get the hashimoto’s under control, and then it seems to improve absorption, but specifically, and there’s. The other things are the other reasons, by the way that you won’t absorb vitamin d, and this is relevant to hashimoto’s as you’re about to find out in a second um is: maybe you don’t have a gallbladder that gallbladder that, for my entire lifetime, has been kind of natural, negligible kind of a throwaway organ kind of like.

Ah, you know your gallbladder’s got some stones in it. Let’s. Take it out. Okay, no big deal turns out now. Gallbladder does a lot more than just digest your fat soluble vitamins, which is vitamin d. It does a lot of other things.

It has a lot to do with your immune system. That’s, a lot to do with pancreatic function and so think twice about getting your gallbladder out. So so vitamin d, if you don’t, have a gallbladder or if you have a gallbladder, it’s, not functioning.

Well, because your digestive chain is broken down. You’re, not going to break it down it’s, a fat-soluble vitamin, and maybe you have maybe you have a problem with the inside of your intestines, that’s inflamed.

Maybe you have celiac, maybe of all sort of colitis, not so much, because that’s more downstream from where it’s absorbed, but maybe you have sibo. Maybe you have oral tolerance problems. Maybe there’s, just a number of things you can have in there we’re.

Just not you’re, just not going to absorb it. It’s just going to go it’s, going to go in it’s, going to go out into the toilet. You’re, going to check your vitamin d six weeks later after taking 10 000 units a day, and you’re, going to go from 45 to 46 and go what the hell is going on here so and and a lot of That has to do with one of the reasons that would that would cause that type of a situation would be uh.

Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, because hashimoto’s has a hypothyroid aspect to it, and so hypothyroid means it would slow down your stomach. It would soak down your gallbladder. It might slow down your intestines ability to move.

You might get constipation that might alter your ability to to digest your vitamin d, but i tell you all of that to tell you this. So there was a study that that came out and it was um and it was about vitamin d and its relativity to hashimoto’s.

Now i have had varying success with giving people high doses of vitamin d, and i’m. Not going to get into what that means: okay, uh, but here’s. But if, if you’re, but if you’re, the range of 30 to 100 is the range i’d, like to see you like right, around 100 and and whatever it takes to get that person there, whatever dose It takes to get that person there that’s, my dose okay and while and and so and i’ve, seen some really cool stuff happen.

Sometimes just getting the vitamin d up, i’ve. Seen i’ve seen the thing like inflammatory, hashimoto’s, symptoms get under control, our palpitations go down inflammation and throw code. Now it turns out that um that when you get vitamin and vitamin d is a steroid by the way they call it a suck steroid suc, okay, steroid, you can look that up and that’s.

Not as you see it’s as you see steroid, and so, but you got to get it to a certain spot where it seems like it takes on this steroidal uh effect. So what they have found that i was reading a study out of uh out of a a bunch of notes that i got at a seminar on hashimoto’s.

And the study showed that, once you got vitamin d up into a high normal range that it could, if so, your tsh your thyroid, stimulating hormone. If it goes high, yeah hypothyroid right, it has shown one of the things that it will do.

Is it it can at at high doses, in not everybody, but in a in a percentage of hashimoto’s, patients, it can work to bring that thyroid, stimulating hormone down to normal. It’s, complex situation, to explain the whole thing, but basically the person has inflammation it’s, damaging their thyroid.

The thyroid’s, vomiting out uh, t3 and t4, which are which are thyroid hormones, while, while the destruction is taking place and the person’s and and then that’s affecting all of their numbers in different ways and And the vitamin d brings down the inflammation that helps to uh that helps to normalize that situation.

So vitamin d can can do that now there’s, two markers that tell us whether you have hashimoto’s or not one’s called the thyroid peroxidase antibody marker tpo, a lot more people are familiar with that today.

Most people are not as familiar with the anti-thyroid globulin marker; usually they run both if a person has hashimoto’s about 90 percent of the time they’re, going to find out more from the tpo that thyroid products says it’s just more sensitive, it’s, an enzyme.

The anti-thyroglobulin marker is uh. It’s, a whole different animal. You’re, it’s in and it only shows up um a small percentage of time. I would say three: seven: i don’t even think it reaches ten percent of the time that it shows up somewhere, but when it shows up it’s like well.

Okay, we have hashimoto’s: okay, um, so high doses of vitamin d have been also shown to lower the antibodies against anti-thyroglobulin, marcus thyroglobulin, so those are thyroid. Those are thyroid proteins.

Okay, those are like the matrix. Those are like what your thyroid is made up. Now you’re, that’s uh, whereas the other one is an attack against enzymes that make the hormone. This is like an attack against your actual thyroid and so high doses of vitamin d have also been shown to alter the anti-thyroglobulin, but not the other one, but not, but not the thyroid one.

The tpo, which is the immune system, attacking your your enzymes that make your t4 and t3 and make it jittery and stuff like that so uh so so, vitamin d is, is a very we. We recognized early on that vitamin d was low in everybody.

The group that i know i was involved with and then um and then and then started really dosing it up and started, seeing some dramatic changes in not everybody but certain patients enough to go whoa. Okay, there’s.

A connection here started to realize that maybe the vitamin d was low for uh because they had autoimmunity. Indeed, i think that’s. What i think it’s, where the research is probably leading they’re, going to probably because researchers they don’t just put that in their research.

They have to go into another research project and establish it and so on and so forth. I think that’s, probably coming when i look at somebody and their vitamin d is 16 and it should be really way up in the upper range closer to like 85 to 100, or something like that, i i automatically am like.

Okay, you have autoimmunity until proven innocent, so so vitamin d and i don’t here’s. What i wanted to do, i want to dispel the myth. I’m, not getting enough sun all right. You don’t need that much sun to get.

You know enough vitamin d to kind of make things happen. Vitamin d is it has a lot to do with calcium uh metabolism, and then people say: oh, you ‘ Ve got to get out more that’s. Why you’re, getting osteoporosis, that’s right, calcium! It’s! It’s! It’s! It’s, not that i have people that come in here who are they’re horse trainers.

They’re outside all day long. They’re, they’re, they’re um uh. They call them uh the uh uh lifeguards. They’re lifeguards. I have people coming here, lifeguards and they’re coming in or tan and their vitamin d is like 10.

. You know so they’re either having these polymorphisms. They’re bad, they have a bad gut, they have a bad thyroid, they have autoimmunity it’s, one of these other things, and and so that, but i see that pretty much across the board, so it’s.

It’s, it’s, easy to have a good, laugh and explain that to the uh lifeguard, okay, but a lot of times. People are just like. No, we’re, not on the right parallel and i need to get out there more sun. Let me tell you with with you: if you’re hashimoto’s, new watches it’s, not about that.

It is about either the inflammation that they’re talking about, or it’s about the polymorphism. That seems to be now related heavily to hashimoto’s himself. Is that causing hashimoto & # 39? S is hashimoto’s, causing that it’s, probably a vicious cycle.

They’re. They’re working on which one causes the other, but you don’t you don’t need to know in that much detail to be able to help people to understand that they need to get their vitamin d up And and then, if it doesn’t get up kind of figure out why and and fix that, so that’s.

I think those are the salient points about vitamin d that i wanted to bring to you today. Those are ones that i still keep getting a lot of confusion from the people that i treat and consult with on that topic, and it’s so common that i just thought it would be a good one to do so.

So that’s, it for today, vitamin d and hashimoto’s. You

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